It is really stupid move from the CONguys to carry out this atrocious act of detention drama....
1. Anna Hazare is fighting for a movement and not carrying out any gimmick.
2. Government was never interested in a proper Lokpal. The history and survival of Lokpal offers ample supporting information about it.
3. If the Government thinks they will stand vindicated in the Court., why are they releasing within 24 hours... why can't they file a case in the Court ?
4. No answer can be given for this question which came in Twitter - Why it took so much of time to arrest Raja / Kalmadi and why it takes such a less time to decide on detaining Anna-ji even before he started protest ....
When some one protests peacefully, you provide support to it.... Simple... Hope this results in a mini revolution and we have a change of mind in the people.
This blog will express views on Indian Stock Market, Wit, Chennai, Travel, Reflections, Current affairs, Music, Movies and photography. Emotions are reflected through some film lyrics which get posted regularly. I am Jack of all trades and trying to become master of few ! :) Hope you will end up liking the blog.
Tuesday, August 16, 2011
Saturday, August 6, 2011
USA - AAA gone
Finally., the inevitable happened over Friday night.
USA, the super power, dream land which has been screwing up its finances over last 20 years... lost its credit rating from AAA to AA+ by S & P Rating.
As our china friends puts it "The US government has to come to terms with the painful fact that the good old days when it could just borrow its way out of messes of its own making are finally gone,"
I have no faith in rating agencies... they react after the numbers are out... which are bit late and fair ... but no use to retail investors as the stock market speculators kill the prices anyway before it actually happens !!!
But I believe in one thing - One cant keep borrowing to survive. A country has to live within its means. No one can escape that over a period of time... But the biggest difficult for US is its near zero interest rates... it would be interesting to see how they recover from the part 2 of 2008 toxic cocktail crisis...
I also believe that Italy would never default during this crisis. Let us wait and see abt my prediction.
21st Century would rightfully belong to BRIC ! (Bric - Brazil, Russia, India and China) South Korea, Singapore would give accompany them in this sweet journey !!!
USA, the super power, dream land which has been screwing up its finances over last 20 years... lost its credit rating from AAA to AA+ by S & P Rating.
As our china friends puts it "The US government has to come to terms with the painful fact that the good old days when it could just borrow its way out of messes of its own making are finally gone,"
I have no faith in rating agencies... they react after the numbers are out... which are bit late and fair ... but no use to retail investors as the stock market speculators kill the prices anyway before it actually happens !!!
But I believe in one thing - One cant keep borrowing to survive. A country has to live within its means. No one can escape that over a period of time... But the biggest difficult for US is its near zero interest rates... it would be interesting to see how they recover from the part 2 of 2008 toxic cocktail crisis...
I also believe that Italy would never default during this crisis. Let us wait and see abt my prediction.
21st Century would rightfully belong to BRIC ! (Bric - Brazil, Russia, India and China) South Korea, Singapore would give accompany them in this sweet journey !!!
Tuesday, July 26, 2011
Tax... Tax...
1) Qus.: What are you doing?
Ans.: Business.
Tax : PAY PROFESSIONAL TAX
2) Qus.: What are you doing in Business?
Ans.: Selling the Goods.
Tax : PAY SALES TAX
3) Qus.: From where are you getting Goods?
Ans.: From other State/Abroad
Tax : PAY CENTRAL SALES TAX, CUSTOM DUTY & OCTROI
4) Qus.: What are you getting in Selling Goods?
Ans.: Profit.
Tax : PAY INCOME TAX
5) Qus.: How do you distribute profit ?
Ans : By way of dividend
Tax : PAY DIVIDEND DISTRIBUTION TAX
6) Qus.: Where you Manufacturing the Goods?
Ans.: Factory.
Tax : PAY EXCISE DUTY
8) Qus.: Do you have Staff?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY STAFF PROFESSIONAL TAX
9) Qus.: Doing business in Millions?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY TURNOVER TAX ?
Ans : No
Tax : Then pay Minimum Alternate Tax
10) Qus.: Are you taking out over 25,000 Cash from Bank?
Ans.: Yes, for Salary.
Tax : PAY CASH HANDLING TAX
11) Qus.: Where are you taking your client for Lunch & Dinner?
Ans.: Hotel
Tax : PAY FOOD & ENTERTAINMENT TAX
12) Qus.: Are you going Out of Station for Business?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY FRINGE BENEFIT TAX
13) Qus.: Have you taken or given any Service/s?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY SERVICE TAX
14) Qus.: How come you got such a Big Amount?
Ans.: Gift on birthday.
Tax : PAY GIFT TAX
15) Qus.: Do you have any Wealth?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY WEALTH TAX
16) Qus.: To reduce Tension, for entertainment, where are you going?
Ans.: Cinema or Resort.
Tax : PAY ENTERTAINMENT TAX
17) Qus.: Have you purchased House?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY STAMP DUTY & REGISTRATION FEE
18) Qus.: How you Travel?
Ans.: Bus
Tax : PAY SURCHARGE
19) Qus.: Any Additional Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY EDUCATIONAL, ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL &
SURCHARGE ON ALL THE CENTRAL GOVT.'s TAX !!!
20) Qus.: Delayed any time Paying Any Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY INTEREST & PENALTY
21) INDIAN : Can I die now??
Ans : Pls die in the next 3 mnonths... or else., you will have to pay the the FUNERAL TAX effectove October !!!
Ans.: Business.
Tax : PAY PROFESSIONAL TAX
2) Qus.: What are you doing in Business?
Ans.: Selling the Goods.
Tax : PAY SALES TAX
3) Qus.: From where are you getting Goods?
Ans.: From other State/Abroad
Tax : PAY CENTRAL SALES TAX, CUSTOM DUTY & OCTROI
4) Qus.: What are you getting in Selling Goods?
Ans.: Profit.
Tax : PAY INCOME TAX
5) Qus.: How do you distribute profit ?
Ans : By way of dividend
Tax : PAY DIVIDEND DISTRIBUTION TAX
6) Qus.: Where you Manufacturing the Goods?
Ans.: Factory.
Tax : PAY EXCISE DUTY
8) Qus.: Do you have Staff?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY STAFF PROFESSIONAL TAX
9) Qus.: Doing business in Millions?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY TURNOVER TAX ?
Ans : No
Tax : Then pay Minimum Alternate Tax
10) Qus.: Are you taking out over 25,000 Cash from Bank?
Ans.: Yes, for Salary.
Tax : PAY CASH HANDLING TAX
11) Qus.: Where are you taking your client for Lunch & Dinner?
Ans.: Hotel
Tax : PAY FOOD & ENTERTAINMENT TAX
12) Qus.: Are you going Out of Station for Business?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY FRINGE BENEFIT TAX
13) Qus.: Have you taken or given any Service/s?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY SERVICE TAX
14) Qus.: How come you got such a Big Amount?
Ans.: Gift on birthday.
Tax : PAY GIFT TAX
15) Qus.: Do you have any Wealth?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY WEALTH TAX
16) Qus.: To reduce Tension, for entertainment, where are you going?
Ans.: Cinema or Resort.
Tax : PAY ENTERTAINMENT TAX
17) Qus.: Have you purchased House?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY STAMP DUTY & REGISTRATION FEE
18) Qus.: How you Travel?
Ans.: Bus
Tax : PAY SURCHARGE
19) Qus.: Any Additional Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY EDUCATIONAL, ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL &
SURCHARGE ON ALL THE CENTRAL GOVT.'s TAX !!!
20) Qus.: Delayed any time Paying Any Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY INTEREST & PENALTY
21) INDIAN : Can I die now??
Ans : Pls die in the next 3 mnonths... or else., you will have to pay the the FUNERAL TAX effectove October !!!
Sunday, July 10, 2011
Lyrics of Sara Sara Saara Kaathu from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Lyrics of Sara Sara Saara Kaathu from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Chinmayee
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
humming
Pallavi
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
tea pola nee
enna yen aaththure ?
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
Charanam 1
enge ooru pidikkutha ?
enga thanni inikkudha ?
suthi varum kaathiley
sutta eeral manakkudha ?
mutta kozhi pudikkava?
morai-p-padi samaikkava ?
yelumbunga kadikkayim
enna konjam nenaikkava ?
kamba-n-choru rusikka vaa
samaicha kayya rasikka vaa
modakka-thaan rasam vachi
madakka-thaan pakkuren
retta dosai suttu vachi
kaava kakkuren
mukkannu nongu naan vikkuren
mandu nee kaanga yen kekkurey ?
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
Charanam 2
pullu kattu vaasamaa
buthi-k-kul veesure
maattu mani sathamaa
masaukkul kekkere
katta vandi otture
kayyalavu manasule
kayyezhuthu podure
kanni ponnu maarbule
moonu naala pakkale
ooril endha poovum pookkale
aattu kallu kuzhiyile
urangi pogum poonayaa
unne venthu paathutta
kerangi porenyaa
meenukku yengura kokku nee
kothave theriyale makku nee
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
tea pola nee
enna yen aaththure ?
kaattu malligai poothirukku kaadhala kaadhala
vandhu vandhu oodi pogum vandu-k-enna kaaichala ?
Sung By Chinmayee
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
humming
Pallavi
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
tea pola nee
enna yen aaththure ?
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
Charanam 1
enge ooru pidikkutha ?
enga thanni inikkudha ?
suthi varum kaathiley
sutta eeral manakkudha ?
mutta kozhi pudikkava?
morai-p-padi samaikkava ?
yelumbunga kadikkayim
enna konjam nenaikkava ?
kamba-n-choru rusikka vaa
samaicha kayya rasikka vaa
modakka-thaan rasam vachi
madakka-thaan pakkuren
retta dosai suttu vachi
kaava kakkuren
mukkannu nongu naan vikkuren
mandu nee kaanga yen kekkurey ?
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
Charanam 2
pullu kattu vaasamaa
buthi-k-kul veesure
maattu mani sathamaa
masaukkul kekkere
katta vandi otture
kayyalavu manasule
kayyezhuthu podure
kanni ponnu maarbule
moonu naala pakkale
ooril endha poovum pookkale
aattu kallu kuzhiyile
urangi pogum poonayaa
unne venthu paathutta
kerangi porenyaa
meenukku yengura kokku nee
kothave theriyale makku nee
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
sara sara
saara-k-kaathu veesum podhum
sir-a paarthu pesum podhum
saara-p-paambu pola nenju
satham poduthey
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
ithu ithu
iththu pona nenja thaikka
oththa paarvai paathu sellu
motha soththa yezhudhi thaaren
moochu utpada
tea pola nee
enna yen aaththure ?
kaattu malligai poothirukku kaadhala kaadhala
vandhu vandhu oodi pogum vandu-k-enna kaaichala ?
Lyrics of Poraney Poraney from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Lyrics of Poraney Poraney from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Ranjith & Neha Bhasin
Lyrics By Karthink Neha
Music By M Ghibran
Pallavi
f: poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
azhagaai nee neranja
adada pondhukkul pogayai poley
m: poraley poraley
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraley poraley
povaama-thaan poraley (2)
Charanam 1
f: paruvam thodangi aasa vechen
illadha saamikkum poosa vechen
m: mazhayil nenanja kaatha poley
manasa neeyum nanaichu-putte
f: eera kuzhaya konjam iraval thayya
ponnu manasu-konjam punaya-vaayya
yera iranga paakkum rosa-k-kara
tea thoolu vaasam konda mosa-k-kara
m: ada nallan-kuruvi onnu manasa manasa
siru kanna-n-kuzhiyile paduk-kiriche
chinna chinna korathi ponnu kannu muzhiya thaan
eecham kaaya yezhanchiruche
f: poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
Charanam 2
m: kenathu nelavaa naanirundhen
kalle erinju kozhappi-putte
f: unna paarthu pesayila
rendaam murayaa kutha vache
m: mookanaam gown-e-pola un nenaippu
cheem-paalu vaasam pola un sirippu
f: ada-kaakkum kozhi pola en thavippu
posukkunnu poothirukke en pozhappu
m: ada manja kezhangu unna nenachi nenachi dhinam
manasukkulle vachu poottikitten
un pinju viral pathicha manna eduthu naan
thayathu-kku poosi-k-kitten
m: poraley
poraley
poraley
povaama-thaan poraley
f: azhagaai nee neranja
adada pondhukkul pogayai poley
poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
poraney
poraney
poraney
Sung By Ranjith & Neha Bhasin
Lyrics By Karthink Neha
Music By M Ghibran
Pallavi
f: poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
azhagaai nee neranja
adada pondhukkul pogayai poley
m: poraley poraley
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraley poraley
povaama-thaan poraley (2)
Charanam 1
f: paruvam thodangi aasa vechen
illadha saamikkum poosa vechen
m: mazhayil nenanja kaatha poley
manasa neeyum nanaichu-putte
f: eera kuzhaya konjam iraval thayya
ponnu manasu-konjam punaya-vaayya
yera iranga paakkum rosa-k-kara
tea thoolu vaasam konda mosa-k-kara
m: ada nallan-kuruvi onnu manasa manasa
siru kanna-n-kuzhiyile paduk-kiriche
chinna chinna korathi ponnu kannu muzhiya thaan
eecham kaaya yezhanchiruche
f: poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
Charanam 2
m: kenathu nelavaa naanirundhen
kalle erinju kozhappi-putte
f: unna paarthu pesayila
rendaam murayaa kutha vache
m: mookanaam gown-e-pola un nenaippu
cheem-paalu vaasam pola un sirippu
f: ada-kaakkum kozhi pola en thavippu
posukkunnu poothirukke en pozhappu
m: ada manja kezhangu unna nenachi nenachi dhinam
manasukkulle vachu poottikitten
un pinju viral pathicha manna eduthu naan
thayathu-kku poosi-k-kitten
m: poraley
poraley
poraley
povaama-thaan poraley
f: azhagaai nee neranja
adada pondhukkul pogayai poley
poraney poraney
kaathoda thoothal poley
poraney poraney
povaama-thaan poraney (2)
poraney
poraney
poraney
Lyrics of Thanjavuru Maadathi from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Lyrics of Thanjavuru Maadathi from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Jayamoorthy
Lyrics By Ve. Ramasamy
Music By M Ghibran
thanjavuru maadathi
pambara kondai maadathi
vengala kondai maadathi
ava kunthaaniya maadathi
kalli kaattu oda meley
maadu mecha maadathi
kattu kulle kandedutha
kaala muttai maadathi
sayam kaalam veedu vandhu
vega vecha maadathi
punja pona maamen kaaran
thinga vandhaan maadathi
punja pona maamen kaaran
thinga vandhaan maadathi
thinga vandha maamen kaaran
odi ponaan maadathi
aan mumpanayil needhunadhu paambu kunji maadathi
kaattil ava yeduthathu paambu muttai maadathi
aye thanjavuru maadathi
pambara kondai maadathi
vengala kondai maadathi
ava kunthaaniya maadathi
Sung By Jayamoorthy
Lyrics By Ve. Ramasamy
Music By M Ghibran
thanjavuru maadathi
pambara kondai maadathi
vengala kondai maadathi
ava kunthaaniya maadathi
kalli kaattu oda meley
maadu mecha maadathi
kattu kulle kandedutha
kaala muttai maadathi
sayam kaalam veedu vandhu
vega vecha maadathi
punja pona maamen kaaran
thinga vandhaan maadathi
punja pona maamen kaaran
thinga vandhaan maadathi
thinga vandha maamen kaaran
odi ponaan maadathi
aan mumpanayil needhunadhu paambu kunji maadathi
kaattil ava yeduthathu paambu muttai maadathi
aye thanjavuru maadathi
pambara kondai maadathi
vengala kondai maadathi
ava kunthaaniya maadathi
Lyrics of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Lyrics of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
English meaning of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Anitha
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
Lyrics of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Anitha
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
sutta sutta mannu kallachu
natta natta kallu veedachu
nochu nochu patta namma pozhappu thaan
pacha mannaa pochu
Baked sand became brick
brick make houses
those who slog hard are yet to reap the benefits
vitha vitha kallu ennachu
vinna vinna thottu ninaachu
mannu kuzhi pola namma parambarai pallam aaghi pochu
what came out of sold bricks
buildings go sky high
but people who make bricks are stuck below the sand pit
ayyanaar saami
azhudhu theerthu paarthom
soranai ketta saami
soththa thaane kettom ?
We cried hard before
Lord Ayyanaar
we asked for food
But Lord did not care
kaalai vaasa kangu poda
kalli mulli vetti vaada
like a bull, come fast running over tough terrain
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
mannu mannu mattum loraaga (?)
makka makka paanju vaaraaga
mazha mazha vandhu
mannu karaigayil makka enge poga ?
sand gets dugged
people consume more
when rain pours and sand melts
where will the people go ?
indha kali mannu vegaadhu
enga thalai murai maaradhu
manna kindi pona
mannu puzhuvukku veedu vaasal yedhu ?
this grey top cant be baked
our era wont change
when you keep digging
where will the insects will go and live ?
ayyanaar saami
kannu thorandhu paaru
enga veettu saami
unne vitta yaaru ?
Open your eyes and see Lord Ayyanaar
Who else can take care us other than you?
edhir kaalam unakkagga
yettu yettu vachu vaada
future is yours
come, walk and join briskly
thanthana thaane thanthana thaane
vervai thanni veettukulle
velakku yethum vaada
Sweat would light the lamp inside the home, come fast
vervai thanni veettukulle
velakku yethum vaada
Sweat would light the lamp inside the home, come fast
English meaning of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Anitha
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
Lyrics of Senga Soola Kaara from Vaagai Sooda Vaa
Sung By Anitha
Lyrics By Vairamuthu
Music By M Ghibran
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
sutta sutta mannu kallachu
natta natta kallu veedachu
nochu nochu patta namma pozhappu thaan
pacha mannaa pochu
Baked sand became brick
brick make houses
those who slog hard are yet to reap the benefits
vitha vitha kallu ennachu
vinna vinna thottu ninaachu
mannu kuzhi pola namma parambarai pallam aaghi pochu
what came out of sold bricks
buildings go sky high
but people who make bricks are stuck below the sand pit
ayyanaar saami
azhudhu theerthu paarthom
soranai ketta saami
soththa thaane kettom ?
We cried hard before
Lord Ayyanaar
we asked for food
But Lord did not care
kaalai vaasa kangu poda
kalli mulli vetti vaada
like a bull, come fast running over tough terrain
Senga soolai kaara
Senga soolai kaara
kaanja kallu vendhu pochu vaada
megam koodi irutti pochu vaada
man who makes bricks
brick has got baked, come soon
greay clouds are gathering, come fast
mannu mannu mattum loraaga (?)
makka makka paanju vaaraaga
mazha mazha vandhu
mannu karaigayil makka enge poga ?
sand gets dugged
people consume more
when rain pours and sand melts
where will the people go ?
indha kali mannu vegaadhu
enga thalai murai maaradhu
manna kindi pona
mannu puzhuvukku veedu vaasal yedhu ?
this grey top cant be baked
our era wont change
when you keep digging
where will the insects will go and live ?
ayyanaar saami
kannu thorandhu paaru
enga veettu saami
unne vitta yaaru ?
Open your eyes and see Lord Ayyanaar
Who else can take care us other than you?
edhir kaalam unakkagga
yettu yettu vachu vaada
future is yours
come, walk and join briskly
thanthana thaane thanthana thaane
vervai thanni veettukulle
velakku yethum vaada
Sweat would light the lamp inside the home, come fast
vervai thanni veettukulle
velakku yethum vaada
Sweat would light the lamp inside the home, come fast
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